{"id":30946,"date":"2021-09-18T21:30:44","date_gmt":"2021-09-19T03:30:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/?page_id=30946"},"modified":"2025-04-30T19:07:09","modified_gmt":"2025-05-01T01:07:09","slug":"cbj-interviews-with-climbing-business-professionals","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/cbj-interviews-with-climbing-business-professionals\/","title":{"rendered":"CBJ Interviews With Climbing Business Professionals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30948\" src=\"https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/interviews-with-climbing-business-professionals.jpg\" alt=\"interviews with climbing business professionals\" width=\"1200\" height=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Over the years CBJ has interviewed dozens of climbing gym founders, managers, routesetters, and other professionals of indoor climbing. We are fortunate to have great writers help with these: the majority of the interviews below were conducted by <a href=\"https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/author\/john-burgman\/\">John Burgman<\/a>, and several were also contributed by <a href=\"https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/author\/jackie-hueftle\/\">Jackie Hueftle<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"footable_parent_30954\"\n         class=\" footable_parent ninja_table_wrapper loading_ninja_table wp_table_data_press_parent bootstrap4 \">\n                <table data-ninja_table_instance=\"ninja_table_instance_0\" data-footable_id=\"30954\" data-filter-delay=\"1000\" aria-label=\"Interviews With Climbing Business Professionals\"            id=\"footable_30954\"\n           data-unique_identifier=\"ninja_table_unique_id_3455460702_30954\"\n           class=\" foo-table ninja_footable foo_table_30954 ninja_table_unique_id_3455460702_30954 table  ninja_search_right nt_type_legacy_table table-striped table-bordered table-hover table-sm vertical_centered  footable-paging-right ninja_table_pro ninja_table_afd_inline ninja_table_has_custom_filter\">\n                <colgroup>\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_0 \">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_1 \">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_2 \">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_3 \">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_4 \">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_5 hidden\">\n                            <col class=\"ninja_column_6 \">\n                    <\/colgroup>\n        <thead>\n<tr class=\"footable-header\">\n                                                                                                                        <th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_0 ninja_clmn_nm_articletitle \">ARTICLE TITLE<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_1 ninja_clmn_nm_person \">NAME(S)<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_2 ninja_clmn_nm_business \">BUSINESS<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_3 ninja_clmn_nm_title \">TITLE<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_4 ninja_clmn_nm_topic \">TOPIC<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_5 ninja_clmn_nm_url hidden\">URL<\/th><th scope=\"col\"  class=\"ninja_column_6 ninja_clmn_nm_interviewer \">INTERVIEWER<\/th><\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n\n        <tr data-row_id=\"7739\" class=\"ninja_table_row_0 nt_row_id_7739\">\n            <td>Don\u2019t Give Up on \u201cMom-and-Pop\u201d Gyms (podcast)<\/td><td>Jackson Scott<\/td><td>AL - Crux Climbing<\/td><td>Co-Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/dont-give-up-on-mom-and-pop-gyms-cbj-podcast-with-jackson-scott\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7740\" class=\"ninja_table_row_1 nt_row_id_7740\">\n            <td>You Can Strip My Boulder (podcast)<\/td><td>Blake Green<\/td><td>AL - High Point<\/td><td>Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/you-can-strip-my-boulder-cbj-podcast-with-blake-green\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7741\" class=\"ninja_table_row_2 nt_row_id_7741\">\n            <td>Gyms in South America Are Adapting Too<\/td><td>Fernando Cicconi<\/td><td>Argentina - Realization Escalada<\/td><td>Chief Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/gyms-in-south-america-are-adapting-too-behind-the-desk-with-fernando-cicconi\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7742\" class=\"ninja_table_row_3 nt_row_id_7742\">\n            <td>Learning, Adapting, Growing in Australia<\/td><td>Jack Masel<\/td><td>Australia - 9 Dewgrees Waterloo<\/td><td>Manager &amp; Head Routesetter<\/td><td>management, routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-jack-masel-learning-adapting-growing-in-australia\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7743\" class=\"ninja_table_row_4 nt_row_id_7743\">\n            <td>Family - and Climbing Family - Come First<\/td><td>Jesse Waldorf<\/td><td>BC -  Strait Up<\/td><td>Co-Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-closures-with-strait-up-climbing-family-comes-first\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7744\" class=\"ninja_table_row_5 nt_row_id_7744\">\n            <td>Problem Solving Together<\/td><td>Lauren Watson<\/td><td>BC - Ground Up<\/td><td>Director &amp; Co-Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-lauren-watson-problem-solving-together\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7745\" class=\"ninja_table_row_6 nt_row_id_7745\">\n            <td>Pride, Relief, Exhaustion<\/td><td>Simon Parton<\/td><td>BC - Project Climbing<\/td><td>National Competition Chief Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/pride-relief-exhaustion-behind-the-wrench-with-simon-parton\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7746\" class=\"ninja_table_row_7 nt_row_id_7746\">\n            <td>Making Life Better<\/td><td>Andrew Coffey<\/td><td>BC - The Hive<\/td><td>Owner &amp; King Worker Bee<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/making-life-better-behind-the-desk-with-andrew-coffey\/<\/td><td>Joe Robinson<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7747\" class=\"ninja_table_row_8 nt_row_id_7747\">\n            <td>Breaking Boundaries<\/td><td>Camielle Weetly<\/td><td>CA - Cliffs of Id<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-wrench-with-camielle-weetly\/<\/td><td>Jackie Hueftle<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7748\" class=\"ninja_table_row_9 nt_row_id_7748\">\n            <td>Letting the Routesetting Gods Take Over<\/td><td>Claire Miller<\/td><td>CA - Grotto Climbing<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/letting-the-routesetting-gods-take-over-behind-the-wrench-with-claire-miller\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7749\" class=\"ninja_table_row_10 nt_row_id_7749\">\n            <td>Distance Learning Meets Climbing: Sender One's COOL Camp<\/td><td>Crystal Tan<\/td><td>CA - Sender One<\/td><td>Brand Marketing Manager<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/distance-learning-meets-climbing-sender-ones-cool-camp\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7750\" class=\"ninja_table_row_11 nt_row_id_7750\">\n            <td>Keep Them Sketched Out (podcast)<\/td><td>Claire Kawainui Miller<\/td><td>CA - Touchstone<\/td><td>Crew Leader<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/keep-them-sketched-out-cbj-podcast-with-claire-kawainui-miller\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7751\" class=\"ninja_table_row_12 nt_row_id_7751\">\n            <td>Keeping Things Community-Centric<\/td><td>Mailee Hung<\/td><td>CA - Touchstone<\/td><td>Director of Communications and Community Engagement<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/keeping-things-community-centric-behind-the-desk-with-mailee-hung\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7752\" class=\"ninja_table_row_13 nt_row_id_7752\">\n            <td>U.S. Comp Climbing's Top Journalist<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td><td>CBJ, Climbing Magazine<\/td><td>Journalist<\/td><td>community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/meet-john-burgman-us-comp-climbings-top-journalist\/<\/td><td>Joe Robinson<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7753\" class=\"ninja_table_row_14 nt_row_id_7753\">\n            <td>Gym Social Media Is More About \u201cOne-to-One\u201d Than \u201cOne-to-Many\u201d (podcast)<\/td><td>Sam Van Boxtel<\/td><td>Climbers Crag<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>marketing<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/gym-social-media-is-more-about-one-to-one-than-one-to-many-cbj-podcast-with-sam-van-boxtel\/<\/td><td>Scott Rennak<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7754\" class=\"ninja_table_row_15 nt_row_id_7754\">\n            <td>Preserving Our Climbing Gym Culture (podcast)<\/td><td>Garnet Moore<\/td><td>Climbing Wall Association<\/td><td>Executive Director<\/td><td>industry, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/preserving-our-climbing-gym-culture-cbj-podcast-with-garnet-moore\/<\/td><td>Scott Rennak<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7755\" class=\"ninja_table_row_16 nt_row_id_7755\">\n            <td>Finding Time To Volunteer<\/td><td>Emily Moore<\/td><td>Climbing Wall Association<\/td><td>Events Manager<\/td><td>events<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/finding-time-to-volunteer-behind-the-desk-with-emily-moore\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7756\" class=\"ninja_table_row_17 nt_row_id_7756\">\n            <td>Coaching and Routesetting for Future Olympians (podcast)<\/td><td>Garrett Gregor<\/td><td>CO<\/td><td>Routesetter &amp; Coach<\/td><td>routesetting, coaching<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/garrett-gregor-coaching-and-routesetting-for-future-olympians-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7757\" class=\"ninja_table_row_18 nt_row_id_7757\">\n            <td>Routesetting on Common and Uncommon Ground (podcast)<\/td><td>Sierra McMurry<\/td><td>CO<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/sierra-mcmurry-routesetting-on-common-and-uncommon-ground-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7758\" class=\"ninja_table_row_19 nt_row_id_7758\">\n            <td>Where Computers and Climbing Meet<\/td><td>Jon Lachelt<\/td><td>CO - Ascent Studio<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management, data<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/where-computers-and-climbing-meet-behind-the-desk-with-jon-lachelt\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7759\" class=\"ninja_table_row_20 nt_row_id_7759\">\n            <td>The \u201cIndiana Jones of Climbing\u201d (podcast)<\/td><td>John McGowan<\/td><td>CO - Boulder<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management, industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-indiana-jones-of-climbing-cbj-podcast-with-john-mcgowan\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7760\" class=\"ninja_table_row_21 nt_row_id_7760\">\n            <td>Helping People Do What They Were Born to Do<\/td><td>Lara Grosjean &amp; Heather Robinson<\/td><td>CO - CityROCK<\/td><td>Majority Owner &amp; General Manager<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/helping-people-do-what-they-were-born-to-do-behind-the-desk-at-cityrock-colorado-springs\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7761\" class=\"ninja_table_row_22 nt_row_id_7761\">\n            <td>An Episode of Affirmations: Battling Imposter Syndrome (podcast)<\/td><td>Ethan Paris<\/td><td>CO - Climbing Collective<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/an-episode-of-affirmations-battling-imposter-syndrome-cbj-podcast-with-ethan-paris\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7762\" class=\"ninja_table_row_23 nt_row_id_7762\">\n            <td>Private Coaching is Getting More Popular<\/td><td>Emmett Cookson<\/td><td>CO - Denver<\/td><td>Paraclimbing National Team Coach and Personal Trainer<\/td><td>coaching<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-paraclimbing-national-team-coach-emmett-cookson\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7763\" class=\"ninja_table_row_24 nt_row_id_7763\">\n            <td>On Eye-Pro, Ugly Boulders, and Influencers (podcast)<\/td><td>Kegan Minock<\/td><td>CO - Gripstone<\/td><td>Head Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/on-eye-pro-ugly-boulders-and-influencers-cbj-podcast-with-kegan-minock\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7764\" class=\"ninja_table_row_25 nt_row_id_7764\">\n            <td>Growing Membership Through Programming (podcast)<\/td><td>Evan Pearce<\/td><td>CO - Movement Gyms<\/td><td>Senior Director<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/growing-membership-through-programming-cbj-podcast-with-evan-pearce\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7765\" class=\"ninja_table_row_26 nt_row_id_7765\">\n            <td>Routesetting Through Pregnancy<\/td><td>Carolina Fullerton<\/td><td>CO - Movement Boulder<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/routesetting-through-pregnancy-behind-the-wrench-with-carolina-fullerton\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7766\" class=\"ninja_table_row_27 nt_row_id_7766\">\n            <td>Macaroni &amp; Cheese to Steak Dinner<\/td><td>Kegan Minock<\/td><td>CO - Rock'n &amp; Jam'n<\/td><td>Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting, shaping<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/macaroni-cheese-to-steak-dinner-behind-the-wrench-with-kegan-minock\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7767\" class=\"ninja_table_row_28 nt_row_id_7767\">\n            <td>Understanding Constants Over Time (podcast)<\/td><td>Claire Gordon<\/td><td>CO - The Campus<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/understanding-constants-over-time-cbj-podcast-with-claire-gordon\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7768\" class=\"ninja_table_row_29 nt_row_id_7768\">\n            <td>Bless Its Brushless Heart (podcast)<\/td><td>Buck Yedor<\/td><td>CO - The Spot<\/td><td>Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/bless-its-brushless-heart-cbj-podcast-with-buck-yedor\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7769\" class=\"ninja_table_row_30 nt_row_id_7769\">\n            <td>Storytelling Through Movement<\/td><td>Holly Chen<\/td><td>CO - Ubergrippen &amp; BRC<\/td><td>Routesetter, Writer<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/storytelling-through-movement-behind-the-wrench-with-holly-chen\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7770\" class=\"ninja_table_row_31 nt_row_id_7770\">\n            <td>\"Climb Rocking\"<\/td><td>Heel Hook Harry<\/td><td>CO - Wooden Mountain<\/td><td>Mascot<\/td><td>marketing, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/climb-rocking-with-heel-hook-harry\/<\/td><td>Naomi Stevens<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7771\" class=\"ninja_table_row_32 nt_row_id_7771\">\n            <td>The Value of Routesetting Mentorship<\/td><td>Matt Ratajczak<\/td><td>DC - BKB Eckington<\/td><td>Route Setting Manager<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-value-of-routesetting-mentorship-behind-the-wrench-with-bkbs-matt-ratajczak\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7772\" class=\"ninja_table_row_33 nt_row_id_7772\">\n            <td>A Climbing Wall Artist<\/td><td>Phil Lewis<\/td><td>Eldorado Climbing<\/td><td>Artist<\/td><td>artwork<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-phil-lewis-a-climbing-wall-artist\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7773\" class=\"ninja_table_row_34 nt_row_id_7773\">\n            <td>Old Ropes, New Art<\/td><td>Elliot Lacroix<\/td><td>End of the Line Design<\/td><td>Artist<\/td><td>artwork<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/old-ropes-new-art-behind-the-desk-with-elliot-lacroix\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7774\" class=\"ninja_table_row_35 nt_row_id_7774\">\n            <td>Community as a Long-Term Investment<\/td><td>Britton Frankel<\/td><td>FL - DynoClimb<\/td><td>Co-Owner<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/community-as-a-long-term-investment-behind-the-desk-with-britton-frankel\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7775\" class=\"ninja_table_row_36 nt_row_id_7775\">\n            <td>Old-School Foundation, New-School Shapes (podcast)<\/td><td>Mathieu Ackermann<\/td><td>Flathold<\/td><td>Co-Owner<\/td><td>routesetting, shaping<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/old-school-foundation-new-school-shapes-cbj-podcast-with-mathieu-ackermann\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7776\" class=\"ninja_table_row_37 nt_row_id_7776\">\n            <td>More Keys to Route Setting<\/td><td>Jacky Godoffe<\/td><td>France<\/td><td>Freelance Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/more-keys-to-route-setting-a-behind-the-scenes-interview-with-jacky-godoffe\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7777\" class=\"ninja_table_row_38 nt_row_id_7777\">\n            <td>Chalk Business is Changing Too<\/td><td>Kevin Brown<\/td><td>Friction Labs<\/td><td>Co-Founder &amp; CEO<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/chalk-business-is-changing-too-behind-the-closures-with-kevin-brown\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7778\" class=\"ninja_table_row_39 nt_row_id_7778\">\n            <td>Every Town Can Hold a Climbing Gym<\/td><td>Adrian Prelipceanu<\/td><td>GA - Active Climbing<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/every-town-can-hold-a-climbing-gym-behind-the-desk-with-adrian-prelipceanu\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7779\" class=\"ninja_table_row_40 nt_row_id_7779\">\n            <td>Eating Disorders, RED-S, and a Look Behind the Resignations (podcast)<\/td><td>Dr. Volker Scho\u0308ffl<\/td><td>Germany<\/td><td>Doctor<\/td><td>coaching<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/eating-disorders-red-s-and-a-look-behind-the-resignations-cbj-podcast-with-dr-volker-schoffl\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7780\" class=\"ninja_table_row_41 nt_row_id_7780\">\n            <td>Optimism Solves Problems<\/td><td>Don Campbell<\/td><td>ID - Gemstone<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-closures-with-don-campbell-optimism-solves-problems\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7781\" class=\"ninja_table_row_42 nt_row_id_7781\">\n            <td>The Future of Climbing Competitions in a COVID-19 World<\/td><td>Clint Colwell &amp; Gary Mattos<\/td><td>ID - The Commons<\/td><td>Co-Owner &amp; Head Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-future-of-climbing-competitions-in-a-covid-19-world\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7782\" class=\"ninja_table_row_43 nt_row_id_7782\">\n            <td>Making the Most of a Climbing Gym Retail Space (podcast)<\/td><td>Brad Werntz<\/td><td>IL - Boulders<\/td><td>President<\/td><td>retailing<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/making-the-most-of-a-climbing-gym-retail-space-cbj-podcast-with-brad-werntz\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7783\" class=\"ninja_table_row_44 nt_row_id_7783\">\n            <td>Coaching Youth Through the Ages (podcast)<\/td><td>Dave Hudson<\/td><td>IL - FA Climbing<\/td><td>Co-Founder &amp; Coach<\/td><td>coaching<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/dave-hudson-coaching-youth-through-the-ages-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7784\" class=\"ninja_table_row_45 nt_row_id_7784\">\n            <td>Bringing a Dream to Life in Israel<\/td><td>Yuval Hamburg<\/td><td>Israel - Performance Rock<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-yuval-hamburg-in-israel\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7785\" class=\"ninja_table_row_46 nt_row_id_7785\">\n            <td>Growth Spurs Innovation<\/td><td>John Oungst<\/td><td>KAYA<\/td><td>Customer Success Manager<\/td><td>community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/growth-spurs-innovation-behind-the-desk-with-john-oungst\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7786\" class=\"ninja_table_row_47 nt_row_id_7786\">\n            <td>Days of the \u201cBig Boss Brain\u201d (podcast)<\/td><td>Kasia Pietras<\/td><td>Kilter<\/td><td>Routesetter &amp; Instructor<\/td><td>routesetting, industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/days-of-the-big-boss-brain-cbj-podcast-with-kasia-pietras\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7787\" class=\"ninja_table_row_48 nt_row_id_7787\">\n            <td>We All Have a Story<\/td><td>Lynnette Miller<\/td><td>KY - Rock Gem &amp; Vision Holds<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>routesetting, coaching, shaping<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/we-all-have-a-story-behind-the-desk-with-lynnette-miller\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7788\" class=\"ninja_table_row_49 nt_row_id_7788\">\n            <td>Value Propositions and Pricing Sweet Spots<\/td><td>Lee Guilbeau &amp; Robb Antrobus<\/td><td>LA - UpTown<\/td><td>Co-Founders<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/value-propositions-and-pricing-sweet-spots-behind-the-desk-with-uptown\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7789\" class=\"ninja_table_row_50 nt_row_id_7789\">\n            <td>Standing Out In a City of Many Gyms<\/td><td>Michael Paukner<\/td><td>MA - Rock Spot<\/td><td>Manager<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/standing-out-in-a-city-of-many-gyms-behind-the-desk-with-michael-paukner\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7790\" class=\"ninja_table_row_51 nt_row_id_7790\">\n            <td>Routesetting Should Be Fun - It's Not Brain Surgery<\/td><td>Alison Krayer<\/td><td>MD - Earth Treks Hampden<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/routesetting-should-be-fun-its-not-brain-surgery-behind-the-wrench-with-alison-krayer\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7791\" class=\"ninja_table_row_52 nt_row_id_7791\">\n            <td>Necessity Breeds Invention (podcast)<\/td><td>Andy Nelson<\/td><td>Method Grips<\/td><td>President<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/necessity-breeds-invention-cbj-podcast-with-andy-nelson\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7792\" class=\"ninja_table_row_53 nt_row_id_7792\">\n            <td>Now Is the Time to Come Together<\/td><td>Andy Nelson<\/td><td>Method Grips<\/td><td>President<\/td><td>shaping<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-closures-with-andy-nelson\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7793\" class=\"ninja_table_row_54 nt_row_id_7793\">\n            <td>Mexico\u2019s Gym Industry Is Booming (podcast)<\/td><td>Javier D\u00edaz<\/td><td>Mexico - Sierra Elevation<\/td><td>Co-Founder<\/td><td>industry, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/mexicos-gym-industry-is-booming-cbj-podcast-with-javier-diaz\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7794\" class=\"ninja_table_row_55 nt_row_id_7794\">\n            <td>The Midwest Psych Is High<\/td><td>Christopher Deal<\/td><td>MN - Nature of the North<\/td><td>Director of Climbing<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-midwest-psych-is-high-behind-the-wrench-with-christopher-deal\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7795\" class=\"ninja_table_row_56 nt_row_id_7795\">\n            <td>How To Be an Entrepreneur (podcast)<\/td><td>Andrew Potter<\/td><td>MO - RoKC<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/how-to-be-an-entrepreneur-cbj-podcast-with-andrew-potter\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7796\" class=\"ninja_table_row_57 nt_row_id_7796\">\n            <td>Living the Brand: Q&amp;A With Movement\u2019s New CEO<\/td><td>Anne-Worley Moelter<\/td><td>Movement Gyms<\/td><td>CEO &amp; Founder<\/td><td>industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/living-the-brand-qa-with-anne-worley-moelter-movements-new-ceo\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7797\" class=\"ninja_table_row_58 nt_row_id_7797\">\n            <td>Put a Drop in the Bucket When You Can (podcast)<\/td><td>Taylor Fragomeni<\/td><td>MT - Spire<\/td><td>Head Routesetter &amp; Head Coach<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/put-a-drop-in-the-bucket-when-you-can-cbj-podcast-with-taylor-fragomeni\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7798\" class=\"ninja_table_row_59 nt_row_id_7798\">\n            <td>Meet the Main Wall Builder Behind Mexico\u2019s Booming Gym Industry<\/td><td>Diego \u00c1lvarez-Tostado<\/td><td>Muta Climbing<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/meet-the-main-wall-builder-behind-mexicos-booming-gym-industry\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7799\" class=\"ninja_table_row_60 nt_row_id_7799\">\n            <td>Supporting the New Climber\u2019s Journey (podcast)<\/td><td>Megan Cheek<\/td><td>NC - Inner Peaks<\/td><td>Digital Marketing Manager<\/td><td>marketing<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/supporting-the-new-climbers-journey-cbj-podcast-with-megan-cheek\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7800\" class=\"ninja_table_row_61 nt_row_id_7800\">\n            <td>Climbers and Riders Both Show Up<\/td><td>Elizabeth Jackson<\/td><td>NC - Riveter<\/td><td>General Manager &amp; Founder<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/climbers-and-riders-both-show-up-behind-the-desk-with-riveter-founder-elizabeth-jackson\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7801\" class=\"ninja_table_row_62 nt_row_id_7801\">\n            <td>Hold the Doors Open<\/td><td>Sydney McNair<\/td><td>NH - NH Climbing &amp; Fitness<\/td><td>Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/hold-the-doors-open-behind-the-wrench-with-sydney-mcnair\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7802\" class=\"ninja_table_row_63 nt_row_id_7802\">\n            <td>What Is a \u201cChaos Bomb\u201d? (podcast)<\/td><td>Annabelle Spingler<\/td><td>NJ - The Gravity Vault<\/td><td>L3 Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/what-is-a-chaos-bomb-cbj-podcast-with-annabelle-spingler\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7803\" class=\"ninja_table_row_64 nt_row_id_7803\">\n            <td>Thinking Outside Yourself<\/td><td>Kevin McLean<\/td><td>NJ - The Gravity Vault<\/td><td>Head Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/thinking-outside-yourself-behind-the-wrench-with-kevin-mclean\/<\/td><td>Amalia Wompa<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7804\" class=\"ninja_table_row_65 nt_row_id_7804\">\n            <td>Are Markets Approaching Saturation?<\/td><td>Lucas Kovalcik<\/td><td>NJ - The Gravity Vault<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/are-markets-approaching-saturation-behind-the-desk-with-lucas-kovalcik-at-the-gravity-vault\/<\/td><td><\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7805\" class=\"ninja_table_row_66 nt_row_id_7805\">\n            <td>What Makes a Good Gym Video?<\/td><td>Jeremiah Curtis, Aaron Stromberg &amp; Ben Lane<\/td><td>NM - Stone Age<\/td><td>Filmmakers<\/td><td>marketing<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/what-makes-a-good-gym-video\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7806\" class=\"ninja_table_row_67 nt_row_id_7806\">\n            <td>Mentoring Coaches, Developing Strong Youth Programs<\/td><td>Jackie Pettitt<\/td><td>NV - Mesa Rim<\/td><td>Head Coach<\/td><td>coaching<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/jackie-pettitt-mentor-to-head-coaches-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>Zoe Leibovitch<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7807\" class=\"ninja_table_row_68 nt_row_id_7807\">\n            <td>Inclusion Takes Intention<\/td><td>Gabby Zonneveld<\/td><td>NY - MetroRock<\/td><td>Manager<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/inclusion-takes-intention-behind-the-desk-with-gabby-zonneveld-at-metrorock\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7808\" class=\"ninja_table_row_69 nt_row_id_7808\">\n            <td>Behind the Desk with Kristina Ericson<\/td><td>Kristina Ericson<\/td><td>NY - The Cliffs<\/td><td>Events Coordinator<\/td><td>events<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-kristina-ericson\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7809\" class=\"ninja_table_row_70 nt_row_id_7809\">\n            <td>Providing Climbing for Everybody<\/td><td>Emily Buckley &amp; Lulu Rodriguez<\/td><td>NY - The Cliffs Harlem<\/td><td>Director of Operations &amp; General Manager<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-emily-buckley-and-lulu-rodriguez\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7810\" class=\"ninja_table_row_71 nt_row_id_7810\">\n            <td>Taking 24-Hour Access Coast to Coast<\/td><td>David Sacher<\/td><td>NY - VITAL Brooklyn<\/td><td>Co-Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/taking-24-hour-gym-access-coast-to-coast-behind-the-desk-with-david-sacher\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7811\" class=\"ninja_table_row_72 nt_row_id_7811\">\n            <td>Simpler Ideas Win the Day<\/td><td>Trevor Galvin<\/td><td>OK - Blocworks<\/td><td>Operations Supervisor<\/td><td>programming, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/simpler-ideas-win-the-day-behind-the-desk-with-trevor-galvin-at-blocworks\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7812\" class=\"ninja_table_row_73 nt_row_id_7812\">\n            <td>Gearing Up for Survival Mode<\/td><td>Hannah Mosier<\/td><td>OK - Climb Tulsa<\/td><td>Assistant Manager<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-closures-with-hannah-mosier-gearing-up-for-survival-mode\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7813\" class=\"ninja_table_row_74 nt_row_id_7813\">\n            <td>The Setter in the Flatlands (podcast)<\/td><td>Armen Avanessian<\/td><td>OK - Threshold<\/td><td>Head Routesetter &amp; Operations Manager<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-setter-in-the-flatlands-cbj-podcast-with-armen-avanessian\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7814\" class=\"ninja_table_row_75 nt_row_id_7814\">\n            <td>Setting Your Own Way<\/td><td>Tony Agnelli<\/td><td>ON - Of Rock and Chalk<\/td><td>Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-wrench-with-tony-agnelli-setting-your-own-way\/<\/td><td>Jackie Hueftle<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7815\" class=\"ninja_table_row_76 nt_row_id_7815\">\n            <td>Making the Great Leap in Business (podcast)<\/td><td>Francis Larose<\/td><td>OnSite<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/making-the-great-leap-in-business-cbj-podcast-with-francis-larose\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7816\" class=\"ninja_table_row_77 nt_row_id_7816\">\n            <td>You\u2019re Stronger if You\u2019re Honest<\/td><td>Abby Wilson<\/td><td>OR - Rock Haven<\/td><td>Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/youre-stronger-if-youre-honest-behind-the-wrench-with-abby-wilson\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7817\" class=\"ninja_table_row_78 nt_row_id_7817\">\n            <td>Our Gym Is Still Standing<\/td><td>Matt Lambert<\/td><td>OR - Rogue Rock Gym<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/our-gym-is-still-standing-behind-the-desk-with-matt-lambert\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7818\" class=\"ninja_table_row_79 nt_row_id_7818\">\n            <td>Anti-Tall Setter\u2019s Club (members: short setters only) (podcast)<\/td><td>Abby Tran<\/td><td>OR - The Circuit<\/td><td>Assistant Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/anti-tall-setters-club-members-short-setters-only-cbj-podcast-with-abby-tran\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7819\" class=\"ninja_table_row_80 nt_row_id_7819\">\n            <td>Behind the Desk with Danny Burkhead<\/td><td>Danny Burkhead<\/td><td>OR - The Circuit<\/td><td>General Manager<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-danny-burkhead\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7820\" class=\"ninja_table_row_81 nt_row_id_7820\">\n            <td>From Doctor to Director of Climbing<\/td><td>Wade Desai<\/td><td>PA - ASCEND<\/td><td>Director of Climbing<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/from-doctor-to-director-of-climbing-behind-the-desk-with-wade-desai-at-ascend\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7821\" class=\"ninja_table_row_82 nt_row_id_7821\">\n            <td>Getting Slacklining Going at Your Gym (podcast)<\/td><td>Wade Desai<\/td><td>PA - ASCEND<\/td><td>Director of Climbing<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/wade-desai-getting-slacklining-going-at-your-gym-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7822\" class=\"ninja_table_row_83 nt_row_id_7822\">\n            <td>What American gyms can learn from Europe\u2019s gym industry (podcast)<\/td><td>Dean Privett<\/td><td>PA - Iron City Boulders<\/td><td>Gym Manager &amp; Head Routesetter<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/what-american-gyms-can-learn-from-europes-gym-industry-cbj-podcast-with-dean-privett\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7823\" class=\"ninja_table_row_84 nt_row_id_7823\">\n            <td>Always Be Open to New Ideas<\/td><td>Charlie Schreiber<\/td><td>PA - Reach Climbing<\/td><td>Director of Programming<\/td><td>coaching, management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/always-be-open-to-new-ideas-behind-the-desk-with-charlie-schreiber\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7824\" class=\"ninja_table_row_85 nt_row_id_7824\">\n            <td>It's a New World<\/td><td>Michael Feinberg<\/td><td>PA - Reach Climbing<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/its-a-new-world-behind-the-desk-with-michael-feinberg\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7825\" class=\"ninja_table_row_86 nt_row_id_7825\">\n            <td>Legal Challenges Come With Growth (podcast)<\/td><td>Jason Pill<\/td><td>Phelps Dunbar<\/td><td>Attorney<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/jason-pill-legal-challenges-come-with-growth-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7826\" class=\"ninja_table_row_87 nt_row_id_7826\">\n            <td>Gym Development in Canada and \u201cMaking Friends Through Climbing\u201d (podcast)<\/td><td>Jean-Marc de la Plante<\/td><td>QC - Uplify<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/gym-development-in-canada-and-making-friends-through-climbing-cbj-podcast-with-jean-marc-de-la-plante\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7827\" class=\"ninja_table_row_88 nt_row_id_7827\">\n            <td>Stay True to Your Core<\/td><td>Pete Sancianco<\/td><td>RI - Rock Spot<\/td><td>Director of Marketing<\/td><td>marketing<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/stay-true-to-your-core-behind-the-desk-with-pete-sancianco-at-rock-spot\/<\/td><td>Naomi Stevens<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7828\" class=\"ninja_table_row_89 nt_row_id_7828\">\n            <td>Competition Keeps Us Honest (podcast)<\/td><td>Gavin Heverly<\/td><td>Rise Above Consulting<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/competition-keeps-us-honest-cbj-podcast-with-gavin-heverly\/<\/td><td>Scott Rennak<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7829\" class=\"ninja_table_row_90 nt_row_id_7829\">\n            <td>Letting Go of an Idea<\/td><td>Aaron Davis<\/td><td>SC - BlocHaven<\/td><td>Head Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/letting-go-of-an-idea-behind-the-wrench-with-aaron-davis\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7830\" class=\"ninja_table_row_91 nt_row_id_7830\">\n            <td>What It's Like to Open a New Gym During a Pandemic<\/td><td>Travis Klinghagen<\/td><td>SD - Climberz<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/what-its-like-to-open-a-new-gym-during-a-pandemic\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7831\" class=\"ninja_table_row_92 nt_row_id_7831\">\n            <td>Adding What Should Always Have Been There (podcast)<\/td><td>Hannah Barker, Jiarra Chiang, Hayley Moran<\/td><td>Siege Climbing<\/td><td>Founders<\/td><td>routesetting, events<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/siege-climbing-adding-what-should-always-have-been-there-cbj-podcast\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7832\" class=\"ninja_table_row_93 nt_row_id_7832\">\n            <td>A Custodian of the Community<\/td><td>Jordan Mackay<\/td><td>SK - Regina Climbing Centre<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/a-custodian-of-the-community-behind-the-closures-with-jordan-mackay\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7833\" class=\"ninja_table_row_94 nt_row_id_7833\">\n            <td>All About the Indoor Climbing Expo (podcast)<\/td><td>Travis Williams<\/td><td>TN - Chattanooga<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>news<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/all-about-the-indoor-climbing-expo-cbj-podcast-with-travis-williams\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7834\" class=\"ninja_table_row_95 nt_row_id_7834\">\n            <td>Let\u2019s Talk About 24-Hour Access (podcast)<\/td><td>Lindsay Runne<\/td><td>TN - Climb Roots<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/select-lets-talk-about-24-hour-access-cbj-podcast-with-lindsay-runne-lets-talk-about-24-hour-access-cbj-podcast-with-lindsay-runne\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7835\" class=\"ninja_table_row_96 nt_row_id_7835\">\n            <td>Comp Combines Spicy Chicken with Epic Sends<\/td><td>Jonathan Brandt<\/td><td>TN - Climb Nashville<\/td><td>Routesetting Director<\/td><td>events, routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/comp-combines-spicy-chicken-with-epic-sends\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7836\" class=\"ninja_table_row_97 nt_row_id_7836\">\n            <td>Making Route Design a Team Effort<\/td><td>Cody Grodzki<\/td><td>TN - High Point Chattanooga<\/td><td>Director of Routesetting<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-wrench-with-cody-grodzki\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7837\" class=\"ninja_table_row_98 nt_row_id_7837\">\n            <td>Getting a Gym Ready for National Team Trials During a Pandemic<\/td><td>John Wiygul<\/td><td>TN - High Point Memphis<\/td><td>President<\/td><td>events<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/getting-a-gym-ready-for-national-team-trials-during-a-pandemic\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7838\" class=\"ninja_table_row_99 nt_row_id_7838\">\n            <td>The Meaning of Community<\/td><td>Jon Hawk &amp; Daniel Arnold<\/td><td>TN - Memphis Rox<\/td><td>Director of Operations &amp; Training \/ Volunteer Coordinator<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/the-meaning-of-community-behind-the-desk-with-memphis-rox\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7839\" class=\"ninja_table_row_100 nt_row_id_7839\">\n            <td>101 Climbing Games and Activities (podcast)<\/td><td>Hailey Caissie<\/td><td>TN - The Crag<\/td><td>Programs Manager<\/td><td>programming<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/101-climbing-games-and-activities-cbj-podcast-with-hailey-caissie\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7840\" class=\"ninja_table_row_101 nt_row_id_7840\">\n            <td>Addressing the Entire Climbing Cycle (podcast)<\/td><td>Chris Klinke<\/td><td>Trango<\/td><td>President<\/td><td>retailing<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/addressing-the-entire-climbing-cycle-cbj-podcast-with-chris-klinke\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7841\" class=\"ninja_table_row_102 nt_row_id_7841\">\n            <td>A Setter\u2019s Perspective on Sustainable Holds (podcast)<\/td><td>Roy Quanstrom<\/td><td>Trango<\/td><td>Facility Sales Coordinator<\/td><td>industry<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/a-setters-perspective-on-sustainable-holds-cbj-podcast-with-roy-quanstrom\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7842\" class=\"ninja_table_row_103 nt_row_id_7842\">\n            <td>Community Happens Fast<\/td><td>Andrew Andress<\/td><td>TX - Armadillo Boulders<\/td><td>Operations Manager<\/td><td>management, community<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/community-happens-fast-behind-the-desk-with-andrew-andress\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7843\" class=\"ninja_table_row_104 nt_row_id_7843\">\n            <td>Work Hard and Enjoy the Process<\/td><td>Ben Waggoner<\/td><td>TX - Cave Climbing<\/td><td>Owner<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-ben-waggoner\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7844\" class=\"ninja_table_row_105 nt_row_id_7844\">\n            <td>Gym Events that Benefit the Community<\/td><td>Lydia Huelskamp<\/td><td>TX - Crux Climbing Center<\/td><td>Marketing &amp; Events Manager<\/td><td>events<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-desk-with-lydia-huelskamp-events-that-benefit-the-community\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7845\" class=\"ninja_table_row_106 nt_row_id_7845\">\n            <td>Utah Competition Seeks Climbers Over 50 Years Old; Q&amp;A with Gym Owner<\/td><td>Jeff Compas<\/td><td>UT - Contact Climbing<\/td><td>Co-Founder<\/td><td>events<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/utah-competition-seeks-climbers-over-50-years-old-qa-with-gym-owner-jeff-compas\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7846\" class=\"ninja_table_row_107 nt_row_id_7846\">\n            <td>Our Staff Matter Most<\/td><td>Jacquelyn Horton<\/td><td>UT - Contact Climbing<\/td><td>Gym Manager &amp; Co-Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/our-staff-matter-most-behind-the-desk-with-jacquelyn-horton\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7847\" class=\"ninja_table_row_108 nt_row_id_7847\">\n            <td>Fine-Tuning Gym Programming<\/td><td>Justin Wyse<\/td><td>UT - The Front<\/td><td>Program Director<\/td><td>programming, management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/fine-tuning-gym-programming-behind-the-desk-with-justin-wyse-at-the-front\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7848\" class=\"ninja_table_row_109 nt_row_id_7848\">\n            <td>Routesetting in a New Era<\/td><td>Eddie Morillas<\/td><td>UT - The Front<\/td><td>Director of Routesetting<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/routesetting-in-a-new-era-behind-the-wrench-with-eddie-morillas\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7849\" class=\"ninja_table_row_110 nt_row_id_7849\">\n            <td>Routesetting Consultations, Education Bottlenecks, and Data (podcast)<\/td><td>Foxman McCarthy-James &amp; Justin Wright<\/td><td>Vortex Routesetting<\/td><td>Head Routesetters<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/routesetting-consultations-education-bottlenecks-and-data-cbj-podcast-with-foxman-mccarthy-james-and-justin-wright\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7850\" class=\"ninja_table_row_111 nt_row_id_7850\">\n            <td>From Volunteer Routesetter To Gym Manager<\/td><td>Matthew Butler-Bugher<\/td><td>VT - MetroRock Essex<\/td><td>General Manager<\/td><td>management, routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/from-volunteer-routesetter-to-gym-manager\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7851\" class=\"ninja_table_row_112 nt_row_id_7851\">\n            <td>Community Will Help Sustain Us<\/td><td>Andrea Charest<\/td><td>VT - Petra Cliffs<\/td><td>Owner &amp; Guide<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/behind-the-closures-with-andrea-charest\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7852\" class=\"ninja_table_row_113 nt_row_id_7852\">\n            <td>All Ships Will Rise<\/td><td>Nathan Hadley<\/td><td>WA - Bouldering Project<\/td><td>Setting Manager<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/all-ships-will-rise-behind-the-wrench-with-nathan-hadley\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7853\" class=\"ninja_table_row_114 nt_row_id_7853\">\n            <td>Vans on the Wall (podcast)<\/td><td>Ally Cruz<\/td><td>WA - Bouldering Project<\/td><td>Assistant Head Setter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/vans-on-the-wall-cbj-podcast-with-ally-cruz\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7854\" class=\"ninja_table_row_115 nt_row_id_7854\">\n            <td>Routesetting in the Age of Social Media (podcast)<\/td><td>Stefanie Myr<\/td><td>WA - Climb Tacoma<\/td><td>GM, Head Routesetter<\/td><td>routesetting<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/routesetting-in-the-age-of-social-media-cbj-podcast-with-stefanie-myr\/<\/td><td>Holly Yu Tung Chen<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7855\" class=\"ninja_table_row_116 nt_row_id_7855\">\n            <td>Proving Try-Hard Gyms Work<\/td><td>Andrew Hou<\/td><td>WA - Uplift<\/td><td>Founder<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/www.climbingbusinessjournal.com\/proving-try-hard-gyms-work-behind-the-desk-with-uplifts-andrew-hou\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7856\" class=\"ninja_table_row_117 nt_row_id_7856\">\n            <td>Trends, Mentorship, Communication, and Gym Management (podcast)<\/td><td>Josh Haynes<\/td><td>WA - Uplift<\/td><td>Manager<\/td><td>management<\/td><td>https:\/\/climbingbusinessjournal.com\/trends-mentorship-communication-and-gym-management-cbj-podcast-with-josh-haynes\/<\/td><td>John Burgman<\/td>        <\/tr>\n            <tr data-row_id=\"7857\" class=\"ninja_table_row_118 nt_row_id_7857\">\n            <td>Why the Midwest Is a Great Place for a Climbing Gym (podcast)<\/td><td>Jonathan Landis<\/td><td>WI - 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